During my trip to Cambodia, one day, the tour bus went to pick up another family that was joining us for half a day before they left for their next holiday destination. It was a family of 5 - mom, dad, brother and 2 sisters.
Suddenly, one of the girls asked if I studied at ***.
I replied with a "Yes, I did" looking at her, trying to figure out if I was suppose to know her.
"I studied there too, but I did *** course"
"Oh.... okayyyy" Still no idea who she is (O.o)
She then proceeded to tell me that her sister is currently pursuing her medical degree in XXX, (Again, not meant to offend anyone) and is completing her fourth year. Apparently, she plans to work in Australia upon graduating, and was asking me what it's like working here.
"It's not bad :D" was all I could say...
Because in my mind, I really wanted to ask her -
"Why did you study in XXX, if really you wanna work in Australia?"
I know at the end of the day, it's not where you graduated from, that determines how good a doctor you are. But I have to admit, that given the choice, wouldn't you want to graduate from a prestigious university that you can be proud of? Wouldn't you wanna know that you're getting quality education, from a place that produces quality doctors? Rather than have your qualifications be doubted and scrutinized, and examined under the microscope by different councils / bodies?
Some will proceed to tell me "Who wouldn't wanna graduate from XXX uni? But they lack the $$$ and the grades to make the cut?"
I know of many who have gone to all parts of the world to pursue medicine. And I applaud them for their determination, of wanting to be a doctor - for whatever reason, only they will know. To save lives and make this world a better place, to fulfill their childhood dream, because it's truly their passion to do the job and help others, to get the title in front of their names, for status and glory?? who knows!
But it just got me to thinking, how far would you go, to get that DR. in front of your name??
I always believed that some people are meant to be doctors, and some just aren't. They might still make good surgeons though! **again, no offence**
But sometimes, the best surgeons really do have the stinkiest attitude, and treat their patients as a subject, or worse, a piece of meat. (But of course, I've seen surgeons who are sooo good with people, they remember every single one of their patients' names AND the procedure they had done).
And it's not always dependent on which university you came from, or how high your scores were... but it's something that comes from within. It takes a combination of knowledge, with passion to make a good doctor. It's not about how much you can do, but sometimes, knowing where your boundaries are.
On a different note:
My sister was telling me the other day, that one of her college friends doesn't hang out with "the gang" anymore, perhaps because she feels like she's a step above them since she's studying medicine... And I can't help but agree with her, that there are heaps of people like that in the world. Just because they are doctors, or doctors-to-be, they feel as if everyone else is inferior to them?
And what really made me laugh was, she was studying at ***** (some place that's not widely recognised).
Please, do get off your high horse and look around you? You're no different to everyone else!! You're the reason why people perceive doctors in a less-than-favourable way! You're the reason why others don't like hanging out with doctors, thinking they are clique-ish, arrogant snobs.
Anyways, I'm blabbing and digressing...
The point(s) of this post:
1. It is important to come from a "recognised" university. It makes your job hunting alot easier upon graduation. Personally, I'd rather not be a doctor, than be a lousy produce, from a lousy factory. You get the drift.
2. If you do come from a prestigious university, good on you. Recognise that, and keep it to yourself. There is no need to put others down, to make yourself feel better.
I have digressed so much, I don't even know what I was trying to write about originally... But again, my sincerest apologies if I have offended anyone.
12 comments:
well said well said~!
This post can never come from me...for then they will think that i'm just so jealous of them~!
hahahahaha
I know you didn't mean to offend anyone and offer apology after the potentially offending post.
I find a few sentences contradictory to what you want/lead reader to believe.
"And it's not dependent on which university you came from, or how high your scores were... but it's something that comes from within. It takes a combination of knowledge, with passion to make a good doctor. It's not about how much you can do, but sometimes, knowing where your boundaries are. "
vs
"... Personally, I'd rather not be a doctor, than be a lousy produce, from a lousy factory. You get the drift. "
Other than the previous sentence I do not necessary agree but that's your personal opinion, it is not up to me to judge. I think you make your point clear. Well said though. And I'm not a doctor or doctor-to-be. :-)
Another point to make, I see bright university graduates from prestigious university, I also see dumb graduates from the very same university. Prestigious university is taken into consideration by many potential employers, that is sad but true.
Cheer
i am a doctor too (and OZ grad as well)..
Not everyone is as lucky as you. If they have the money, I am sure they too would want to go to great, "recognized" uni...it is unfair to scrutinised people for having dreams, and braver that us to pursue their dreams..
I'm sure everyone should be able to express opinion freely, but you surely have insulted these people/look down on them (may be unintentionally)...
again, not everyone is as lucky as you...
where did u grad from?
and rank wat in the world?
why soo syok sendiri wan?
are u the best of the best?
how do u knoe?
have u met all docs in the world?
u planning to work in aussie forever?
did u study in melb uni for all 6 years?
Again, to all the anonymous'es who are so brave to comment, yet not brave enough to identify yourselves, thank you for dropping by :)
I am not looking down on anyone here. Please do read my post properly if you haven't already done so. I did stress that it's not always about where you've graduated from that makes who you are. I personally have seen very very good doctors from good uni's and crappy ones as well! And likewise, I've seen very very good doctors from third world countries with a lack of the newest medical technology, and again, crappy ones as well!
I am not scrutinising anyone here. And I admire them for having dreams, and pursuing them! (like I meantioned in my post). But at the same time, I have seen people who would go to the furthest extend to get themselves a medical degree for the wrongest reasons! *cough*status*cough*
Yes, I do consider myself lucky, and I thank God everyday for it! But nevertheless, don't get me wrong. I am not proud, or showy or anything. I consider myself just the same as everyone else. And I hope all my "colleagues" do the same too... for, at the end of the day, we're all God's creations - none of us perfect.
I do give my best to every patient, and have been commented for being 'true and unpretentious' like some colleagues. Again, just my observation and personal opinion. Do feel free to ignore me.
Another point I was making, employers DO look at where you come from, unfortunately. Sad, but true. Otherwise, nobody will have to sit for extra "tests" and "Exams" for licensing. It's just the way the system is at the moment. Things might change in the future, but for now, take it or leave it.
Again, I cannot stress enough that this post was not meant to offend or put anyone down. It just really depends on how you perceive what I wrote. The ones who felt offended, are probably the ones who already had issues within themselves to start with?
Geez, this is a very long reply! Hehe. I might as well write another post!
Dear X34livdlpzuhxxkgklbof9o-
**WOW!! I can't believe I actually bothered typing the whole thing!!**
Totally agree with you that there are graduates of high variability, coming from the best, or the worst universities... Hence like I said before, it's got alot to do with the person itself.
But yeah, I guess what I was trying to say about coming from a 'recognised' uni is... to make your long journey easier by getting a little "head start". :)
Thanks for typing my earlier self-generated id, I won't even attempt to remember it :-) I've changed my id to a more keyboard friendly name.
I came across your blog when searching for dog rescue in my area. Go figure.
I have to admit that some of the anonymous posts are a bit harsh. No one can never please everyone, I wouldn't bother about these posts. Life goes on, cheers.
You can probably tell I'm not coming from a well known university and when I'm hiring, I don't pay special attention to those graduates from more well known universities. I pay attention on the individuals instead. But not everyone is like me, my boss included.
Cheer -- enjoy your cambodia pics, I'm thinking of visiting there myself, likely next year.
Unfortunately, depending on one's interpretation, Mei’s post will almost always come across as being offensive. It's just one of those things which are best told in person.
I would give the girl the benefit of the doubt, least until when she's practicing. It is only then her intention becomes clear.
Sadly, medicine had always been associated with status, so much so that some would just do medicine to make up for their inner lacking (i'm a doctor, hence i am good) or just to fit in with the expectations of certain societies (you are either are doctor or you’re a nobody - you know exactly what i’m talking about) or simply because medicine was the in thing and everyone was doing it (before investment banking became the new go).
Hence for those who actually go all out to be doctors just for the sake of being "doctors", well they are certainly nothing short of being plain pathetic.
Mei's warning-cum-caveat applies.
;)
so in the greater scheme of things where does aussie uni rank?
good/ excellent?
better than everywhere else bar uk/usa?
im asking due to the fact that i wan to pursue further studies..
wat does mei think?
maybe IMU is better
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